Skip to main content

AMD warns that Windows 11 slows games by up to 15%

Windows 11 is here, but it’s not in its best form. AMD posted a notice today warning of performance drops of up to 15% on AMD processors using Windows 11. AMD says it has an update that’s set to arrive later in October, but the company hasn’t announced the date yet.

Only certain applications are affected, but AMD hasn’t said which ones. Certain applications show up to a 5% reduction in performance, while “games commonly used for esports” can show as much as a 15% downgrade. AMD also said that limited-thread applications that stress a single core “may exhibit reduced performance.”

Xbox Windows 10 Remote Play
Microsoft / Xbox

The problem stems from increased level 3 (L3) cache latency. AMD says that Windows 11 can increase measured and functional latency by three times. As the name implies, this is the lowest cache level, so increased latency here represents increased latency for the entire chip. The L3 cache feeds the L2 cache, and so on.

Get your weekly teardown of the tech behind PC gaming
Check your inbox!

Naturally, this hang-up applies to applications that rely on the CPU’s memory subsystem. Esports titles like Dota 2 and Counter-Strike: Global Offensive are affected here, as the data coming from your RAM into the CPU is held up by the L3 cache. Outside of games, other programs rely on the memory subsystem heavily, though they sustain a much lower decrease in performance.

The second issue stems from AMD’s “preferred core” for limited threaded applications. AMD processors push the fastest core to the front of the pile in limited threaded applications, helping boost performance by utilizing the fastest core available. On Windows 11, it seems the scheduler will not place tasks on this core, leading to a decrease in performance.

This issue doesn’t apply to all processors, though. AMD says you should only notice a difference in processors with fewer than eight cores with a TDP above 65 watts.

These problems only apply to processors supported by Windows 11 — though it’s possible unsupported CPUs are affected, too. You can find the full list on Microsoft’s website. For consumer desktops, you’re mainly looking at Ryzen 2000, Ryzen 3000, Ryzen 5000, Threadripper 2000, and Threadripper 3000.

We expected issues with Windows 11 at launch, but a 15% decrease in some games is tough to swallow. It seems there are some issues with the Windows 11 scheduler, too. Previously, we heard about Intel’s Thread Director feature and how upcoming Alder Lake processors could take advantage of the scheduler inside Windows 11.

It seems the scheduler may have been tuned for that type of design. AMD and Microsoft are working on an update to fix the issue, but we don’t know when it’s coming yet. AMD says it expects the update this month.

If you just installed Windows 11, you might want to take advantage of the 10-day downgrade period, at least until this issue is resolved.

Jacob Roach
Lead Reporter, PC Hardware
Jacob Roach is the lead reporter for PC hardware at Digital Trends. In addition to covering the latest PC components, from…
AMD is giving up on Windows 10
AMD's CEO delivering the Computex 2024 presentation.

It's official: AMD's Ryzen AI processors will not support Windows 10. With a neural processing unit (NPU) that reaches up to 50 trillion operations per second (TOPS), the Ryzen AI lineup is more than ready for the future -- so it makes sense that it'd also leave the past in the rearview mirror. As a result, today's findings are just a confirmation of previous rumors. But is this decision a big deal, and will it stretch toward other Zen 5 processors?

Microsoft's Copilot+ sparked a revolution that left AMD and Intel scrambling to release new CPUs that are capable of meeting the 40 TOPS requirement, so it's really no surprise that the laptops built around the AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 and the Ryzen AI 9 365 will not support Windows 10. The chips were built for AI, and all of the latest developments in that area are in Windows 11. In fact, the Ryzen AI 300 series only supports Windows 11 64-bit and Ubuntu. This information comes straight from the source, as can be seen on the AMD product page.

Read more
It’s the end of an era for AMD
An AMD Ryzen CPU socketed in a motherboard.

AMD is following Intel's lead. The company is rebranding its Ryzen CPUs to closely align with what Intel is doing, shifting away from a long product string toward a three-digit part number that includes the phrase everyone is talking about: AI.

Starting with the new Strix Point CPUs, which sport the Zen 5 architecture, AMD is using "Ryzen AI" to differentiate its processors. In addition, instead of a string of four digits noting everything from the year released to the architecture the chip uses, AMD is using a three-digit part number, matching what Intel kicked off with its Meteor Lake CPUs.

Read more
Windows 11 just took copying and pasting to the next level
Windows 11 logo on a laptop.

It's not often that we get innovation in something as basic as copy and paste. But in a new update to Windows 11, copying and pasting is getting supercharged with AI -- and it doesn't even require a Copilot+ PC.

As reported by Windows Latest, Microsoft announced a new PowerToys feature at its Build developers conference that makes copying and pasting especially useful for developers. Once enabled, you'll be able to choose from three pasting options: Paste as plain text (Ctrl+1), Paste as markdown (Ctrl+2), and Paste as JSON (Ctrl+3).

Read more